I'm disgusted.

[severity_softly]

I haven't read (until now) or participated in any of the "was or wasn't Hotch raped" debates, but I have heard about this sort of opinion before: some people seem to want this storyline WAY too much. And that makes me incredibly uncomfortable.

I haven't made up my mind one way or the other whether I think that's what happened, and I would be fine either way, but the "that storyline would just be SO-OMG-AWESOME" comments sort of make me feel queasy. I hadn't read them until it came up in my journal. You know, it's my journal, and I really sort of don't want to hear "OMG I HOPE HOTCH GOT RAPED". I really, REALLY don't. Do I think that storyline might be compelling? Sure. Do I think it makes sense and could have very well happened? Sure, if it's played right. Am I practically pissing my pants with joy at the idea that Hotch might have been brutally (as if there is any other kind of sexual assualt) raped at his weakest moment by the man he most wants to catch, and that he'll probably be scarred for life? No, and I think it's sort of a disgusting way to think.

Sorry if any of you all feel that way. I haven't read any reaction posts because I haven't made up my mind, so I might be pissing some of my flist off. But whatever. It's how I feel. I don't want to listen to squeefull discussion about rape, tyvm.

I am leaving this unlocked, but if anyone decides they want to argue that this sort of squee is acceptable, I may not reply, as I will probably get more disgusted. I hold nothing against the people who have left those comments mentioned. It's their opinion, and they're welcome to it. I just happen to find it all distasteful. If anyone decides it's acceptable to find these comments in my journal that I mentioned and start wank, however, IT'S NOT, and I may unfriend/ban people over it. You're warned.

Comments

[resolucidity.livejournal.com]

Way back in the 80's, NBC's St. Elsewhere had a main male character get man raped and it caused quite a stir, but they handled it in such a way that it was realistic. However it was very possibly a 'jump the shark' moment, and the show may have lasted one more season, I don't remember.

Personally, I don't think they are going to go there with Hotch, nor do I want them to. I don't think that Foyet raped him, but they probably did want to leave it vague enough to make some viewers think he might have been.

But on the flip side of the coin, if the lead character were female, I don't think they'd be so hesitant to go there. I know statistically women are raped far more often than men (or at least females report rape more often), but that makes me cringe as well.

[ubervirgin.livejournal.com]

I may not have expressed it correctly earlier, but I think they may have wanted to show that the act of stabbing someone is a very violating act that can be seen as a type of rape, which could lead profilers to make the leap that the perpetrator is impotent.

I think that if they were going to portray any of the profilers being raped (as an adult) it would probably be by an UNSUB that takes a certain type of man and rapes them. I think the Powers that Be at CBS would feel that it would be easier for the audience to take if the profiler in question was attacked "in the line of fire" instead of coming home and getting attacked totally by surprise.

...which is the way it would probably happen.

And I hate to see it, but if any character got raped on the show, it would probably be Reid.

Which makes me sad. But I can see how CBS would consider him the most appropriate victim.

[thelana.livejournal.com]

Which makes me sad. But I can see how CBS would consider him the most appropriate victim.

But isn't it to CM's credit that they have actually often gone against the stereotype in these matters? Like rather than doing "women in peril" stories they write a sexual abuse story for Morgan (and now possibly Hotch), while the women get stories like going vigilante (Elle) or taking a beating while keeping their cool (Prentiss)? Aren't they also the show that went with Morgan as the sexual abuse victim, aka the person probably anybody would have least expected just going on tv stereotypes?

[thelana.livejournal.com]

This discussion actually makes me wish I knew a bit more about the statistics of male rape. Because when they did Morgan's story one thing I thought was really good about it was that IMO it's an important point to make that black kids can get molested or taken advantages of too and that it is just as horrifying and tragic as it would be with the stereotypical "white, blond, blue eyed little girl with ponytails" that usually comes up first when pedophilic cases are discussed.

Same for Prentiss (or Sex and The City when they did an abortion storyline). IMO it's an important and good point to make that (1) there are woman who have abortion and no that doesn't necessarily have to make them evil and (2) Just because somebody has an abortion it doesn't mean that it doesn't weigh on her mind. That it doesn't have to be either extreme, cold hearted Satan loving bitch OR woman who will go insane with guilt for the rest of their lives. IMO many women have their own various ways of dealing with it and imo this way of dealing with it is pretty good and subtle. Not flashy making a point, but more like slice of life.

But with male rape, I don't know. For example I have no idea how frequent it really is outside of certain high risk environments like prison, or what the liklihood is that somebody who works in law enforcement would be affected by it (basically whether it would work as "this is a big enough issue that it is necessary to address this problem" rather than it being something that would be very rare and unlikely in real life [which is basically how I felt about the "zomg, Reid is forced to become a drug addict because the meanie unsub injects heroic Reid against his will" which really was just 2 steps away from "evil bikers attack Pamela Anderson's character on Baywatch and force her to get a tatoo to explain away the tattoo she got in real life", imo they would have gotten more props from me if they did an alcohol or drug abuse story where the agent does it willlingly rather than come up with a convoluted way for it not be his fault; because from what I hear alcohol is a probably for plenty of law enforcement people [as is divorce, which is why Hotch/Haley is another thing I consider a realistic slice of life for the kind of environment the show is set in])